Today is the perfect day for a drive through Yellowstone. Blue sky and sunshine. The crew is quiet 0n the bench seat. The plan is to drive up to Old Faithful which should make for a comfortable, relaxed morning trip.
The speed limit in the park is 45 mph, unless posted lower.
Of course, if you drive 45 mph, because that’s what the signs say and there are wildlife in abundance, people, a collection of vehicles gathers behind you, pressuring you to hurry up. Several times I pull over to let cars pass. What is the big rush?
I can tell I’m still feeling the after effects of lying awake listening to the chatterboxes last night.
Usually I’m a live-and-let-live person. I like to think I’m tolerant and respectful of other people’s needs and differences. However, I can get in a mood where I can’t seem to think of one good thing about anyone. This trait is in full bloom by the time we reach Old Faithful…
What a mess.
The parking lot is several rows full. People are walking around like zombies, going in and out of the Visitor’s Center, gift shop, and whatever those other buildings are. I manage to find a spot to park. It’s way in the back of the lot. Bridget and Spike are sound asleep. Little Spikey is really zonked out as evidenced by his head drooping over the side of the passenger seat (into which he has the right to sit given he’s my copilot).
That’s when I realize something very strange.
I don’t have the slightest desire to wake up the crew, get out of the PTV, walk across this hot parking lot, and join the throngs of automatons heading to see . . . . what? Something I’ve seen numerous times in television documentaries.
A car pulls out of a space in front of us.
It is immediately replaced by another car. Four sour-faced teenaged girls crawl out of the vehicle. They share a family resemblance so I assume they are sisters. Oh, how put upon they are! Someone paid for their admittance to a national park of great reknown, forced them to ride in an air-conditioned vehicle (with comfy seat cushions, no doubt), drove them past a pristine lake and a magnificent waterfall, and then expect them to look at a natural wonder. What a pain! Gosh, what’s the matter with parents! Don’t they know there’s no cell phone coverage in this godforsaken place!
The parents exit the vehicle as their well-fed daughters squint and scowl.
As expected, the mother is a mere shadow of her former self, shrunken and tired-looking. Ol’ dad looks like he’s been on automatic pilot since before the Clinton administration.
What’s the matter with me?
Am I going to sit here being critical of everyone who walks by? I pick up the brochure handed me at the entrance to Yellowstone. I read the rules. Oh great. No pets allowed at hypothermal sites. I look at the gathering throng. It could be another hour before the geyser erupts. Do I really want to do this?
I give it long consideration.
After all, I did drive all the way up here to see this thing. I come to the realization that pink champagne could be gushing 200 feet into the air right now and I wouldn’t walk across this parking lot to see it. I don’t want to stand around with a bunch of people.
I put the PTV in drive and leave.
I feel better already. On the way back, the crew and I enjoy some playtime at Lewis Lake. This is more to my liking![slideshow]
rvsue
Note: The next morning, after photographing the sunrise at Grassy Lake Road Camp, the crew and I break camp and go back toward the town of Dubois where I know I can obtain a WiFi connection.
We’ve been here at the Falls Campground for about five days. I’ll report on this pretty campground in my next post. I’m writing this in a parking lot. Hence, the lack of creativity in the writing! I’m having difficulty preparing the slideshow. As you can see, it’s not coming out right. I can’t fix it now.
We probably will go back to the Tetons and Yellowstone before leaving the area. If you don’t hear from us for several days, it means we are in the mountains.
July Out-of-Pocket Expenditures:
07/01/12 . . . $3.50 camp fee (Cottonwood CG) 07/02/12 . . . $12.53 groceries, $10 Crazy Horse entrance fee, $3.50 camp fee (Cottonwood CG) 07/03/12 . . . $$3.50 camp fee (Cottonwood CG) 07/04/12 . . . $25.20 groceries, $14.00 clothing (souvenir cap – Wild Horse Sanctuary), $3.50 camp fee (Cottonwood CG) 07/05/12 . . . $38.81 for 8.33 gal. gas @ $3.59 gal., $10.50 groceries, $10 camp fee (Bear Butte SP) 07/06/12 . . . $10 camp fee (Bear Butte SP) 07/07/12 . . . $398 laptop, $49.26 groceries, $22.96 sundries, $5.47 dog food, $0 camp fee (Flying J) 07/08/12 . . . $14.14 for 4.6 gal. propane @ $2.89 gal., $0 camp fee (Sheridan City Park) 07/09/12 . . . $0 camp fee (mall parking lot, Casper) 07/10/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (Brooks Lake) 07/11/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (Brooks Lake) 07/12/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (Brooks Lake) 07/13/12 . . . $39.68 groceries, $7.50 camp fee (Brooks Lake), $4.00 shower 07/14/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (Brooks Lake) 07/15/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (Brooks Lake) 07/16/12 . . . $77.56 for 21.19 gal. gas @3.65 gal., $11.81 groceries, $7.50 camp fee (Brooks Lake) 07/17/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (Brooks Lake) 07/18/12 . . . $0 camp fee (Grassy Lake Rd) 07/19/12 . . . $0 camp fee (Grassy Lake Rd) 07/20/12 . . . $0 camp fee (Grassy Lake Rd) 07/21/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (The Falls) 07/22/12 . . . $50.26 for 13.74 gal. gas @ $3.65 gal., $19.53 groceries, $10.25 laundry, $7.50 camp fee (The Falls) 07/23/12 . . . $17.68 groceries, $7.50 camp fee (The Falls) 07/24/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (The Falls) 07/25/12 . . . $7.50 camp fee (The Falls)
I know you feel. The throngs at Niagara Falls were too much for me. It felt like a cattle drive. The price of fame and beauty, I suppose. Love the sunset photos, Sue.
I didn’t go the chaos of Old Faithful when I was there, alone, either, Sue. We did go the year we were there during a snow storm–few people :). And, I was 6 miles from the North Rim of Grand Canyon and turned back–too hot–too busy. The first time I was there with Rich, two busses pulled up and throngs of noisy people piled out snapping pictures and polluting the air with noise. Same at Rocky Mountain National Park. I was fortunate enough to see a mountain goat give birth and along came a mother with her kid acting like they were at the zoo–noise, etc., interrupting the whole process.
Tetons are beautiful because there aren’t as many “touristy” things to do. It is a place of nature. So is Glacier, but you can’t take dogs–you wouldn’t really want to with the bear danger. The drive on the Going to the Sun Road is worth the drive up through the park.
You would love Idaho, Sue.
You sound like me, Sue, at times people are just a pain in the neck to be around. Another month or so and people with kids will be staying home getting their kids ready for school, and the camp grounds will be much less crowded. Love the pictures.
My husband and I spent almost a week in Yellowstone Park last year, but we arrived after Labor Day. That meant fewer families with children. We loved the scenic parts and those waterfalls are familiar to me. We saw lots of elk while we were there and lots of buffalo. We didn’t see bears or wolves, but we are not early morning risers and I guess the animals prefer the quiet times. I didn’t manage to walk close to Old Faithful either. I could see it well enough from the front porch at the Lodge. I hope you get some quiet neighbors. Parents hope to introduce the kids to the Wilderness, but when kids get fancy phones they just aren’t open to the beauty.
Sue,
Your description of the sour-faced teenage girls was a hoot! Try the park real early in the morning.
I dont care for crowded sights either. There are usually a ton of beautiful places to see in the vicinity of these parks ! and less crowded then in the parks .
You are not alone in your feelings about the crowds and noise at public places. The older I get the less I can take of it. I’ll just sit on my front porch and look out at our simple meadow here in Cuchara, it’s quiet except for the hummingbirds at the feeder. Loved your pictures.
I am with you 100%, Sue. You pegged the situation perfectly and enjoyed your observations of the sisters, chatterboxes, and crowds because I have had similar circumstances. I hope you have a quiet campground for the next several days. Keep this in mind: school is starting soon!
🙂
As I said about the Grand Canyon, Old Faithfull/mudpots will be there next time. Parents took my brother & I to all those popular places when we were kids, now not interested in seeing them; too many other places haven’t been and want to see – like you. Lots of beauty out there and interesting folks.
Howdy rysue & crew,
That bunch of ninnies didn’t only ruin your restful night, they ruined the day also.. What type of drugs were they on!!! It’s good they didn’t show up at the Park, you might have had a brawl!!!
I didn’t like crowds when I was younger and I darn sure like’em less, now!! You’re beginning to sound like a REAL FULLTIMER!!!
All I can say about the crowds at Yellowstone is: try it again next year in mid to late June or very early Sept. A much more pleasant experience! We’ve gone to the Grand Canyon in April, Rocky Mt National Park and Glacier in June. Also Crater Lake in OR in late June. All of them fairly quiet at that time and we were able to see the sights at our own pace. It seems only July and August that you must put up with the thundering human herds!
We did take our dog to Glacier and that worked out fine because we met up with another couple who had a dog and we took turns seeing the sights and dog-watching. There are many places they can go in and around the campgrounds and picnic areas, just not on the trails.
I agree, Marcia. It’s when school lets out that the crowds appear. September is a great. When my husband was alive we’d be out west in May, and I found September to be a breathtaking month. Unfortunately, even at Arches no dogs are allowed–that’s because people don’t clean up after them. When I meandered out myself, I was amazed at how crowded the Oregon Coast was–I arrived in July–had never been there any later than June. Used to be no problem getting a spot in a state park–all full in the summer–aside from tourists, the people over the cascades escape the heat by driving over to the coast.
LOL………..I just left the Oregon coast because it was too cold. I am about 50 miles east of Eugene now and there are to many trees. Any suggestions on where a gal should go for 80’s and not a lot of trees?
I loved not having to take my sweatshirt off all summer!! Too many trees? How can there be too many trees! 🙂 I just looked it up–it’s high 70s early 80s in Flagstaff AZ.
There’s trees there, though. LOL How far south on the Oregon Coast were you? Brookings OR high 80s/early 90s–too hot for me!!! I hit a lucky year in 2010 (left in April/Returned in October). I had beautiful weather every where I went–didn’t hit rain until I was in St. Louis on my way home! Maybe somewhere in California you can go? Have fun wherever it is! – Crater Lake 80 during the day. 40-50s during the night. I think I remember seeing trees, though! LOL 🙂
We were in Yellowstone in September, and I felt there were still too many people to enjoy it. Guess that is the price we pay for beauty in our National Parks. I have been twice, once when we drug our “sour faced children” and again two years ago. I would not go back. I have found that my grown children now look back on some of our travel adventures with fond memories. Who knew?
We hung around and waited when we were in Yellowstone in March 2003…it was not much to see frankly. NOTHING like what I saw back in about 1973…I guess it does not go as spectacular now and maybe less frequently, for some reason. If you go when we did, there are very few people, HOWEVER we got into a blinding blizzard the night before on our way there from Idaho. S C A R Y!! Nearly a whiteout!! The snow melted quickly from the road, staying everywhere else. It was pretty and cold. We did not even have snow boots with us…we never expected it to snow THEN so late in March. But in the mountains most anywhere in the West, I think snow can happen at odd times.
Sue, sorry you didn’t see Old Faithful go off. People can be a bit of a nuisance in the summer.
Let me tell you a story about Yellowstone when I took my girls, 12, 11, 10. Actually, my oldest daughter made her 13th birthday while we were at Yellowstone.
Ok, so we see everything around OF and I decide to go to another site about ¼ mi in the forest. We are about half way to the site and I began to hear twigs, branches and leaves crunching and it sounds like it is getting close, fast. Now, we were aware of bears (1977) in the park so I am getting a little concerned. I tell the kids to stop and listen and sure enough more crunching and thumping and it is coming fast. I turn to the kids and say, “RUN”. We are running as fast as 4 frighten people can run. The sound is coming faster and faster toward us. We pick up speed and the sound is right on us, just then a man jogging, or running or whatever the heck he was doing breezes past us and waves, Hi. That was the last time I went hiking in the forest for years.
” I read the rules. Oh great. No pets allowed at hypothermal sites.” Good reason. Want to see Spike boiled alive??
If taking the dogs with you everyplace you go is critical, you just need to avoid national parks. They are designed around people; not around my dogs (traveled with 3 at one point) nor yours. National forests, as you know, are much more tolerant of pets. We have left our dogs in the camper for several hours. A good supply of water and plenty of ventilation and they will do just fine.
Yellowstone is one of Americas most amazing places. Such a shame to just do a drive-by.
Take care:
ed
It’s not like she doesn’t have control of Spikey or will let him off leash in that area. Dogs often are more behaved than children…especially now adays! Taking Spikey and Bridget with her every place is not critical it’s a must. IF the crew can’t go…it’s over and done with.
I can’t speak for Sue, but I don’t take my dogs anywhere that poses a danger to them. There have been dogs lost to the boiling water. Sue could trip and lose the leash–there goes Spikey. On the boardwalks, you’re only feet, maybe inches to a crust that will break through. Unfortunately, there have been children killed, as well.
Plus, they don’t want domesticated animals spreading disease to wild animals. Sue was very fortunate with the bears at Brook Lake, but dogs are in danger and they put their owners in danger in bear country. That’s a fact. YOU ONLY HAVE TO BE UNLUCKY ONCE.
All you have to do is go to the official Yellowstone site. It’s a dangerous place. “…Just this June, a six-year-old Utah boy suffered serious burns after he slipped on a wet boardwalk in the Old Faithful area. The boy fell into hot water that had erupted from nearby West Triplet Geyser. He survived, but 20 park visitors have died, the most recent six years ago, scalded by boiling Yellowstone waters as hot as 250 degrees Fahrenheit.”
To expand more on my post:
Not knowing Sue personally, from her posts I can be sure that one, she always follows the rules…if dogs aren’t allowed in a certain area…she won’t bring them..period..and two, she very protective with Spikey and Bridgett and wouldn’t subject them or herself to a dangerous situation.
Most misfortunes are a direct result of failing to follow the rules/signs and plain ignorance. When we were in Alaska a bear was fishing a salmon out of the stream. The sign leading toward the area clearly stated “Bear area” no food and stay on the walkway. Couldn’t tell you how many people hopped over the barrier to feed the bear in an attempt to get a better picture! The armed ranger kept advising them to get back on the walkway to no avail!
As for traveling/living in bear country any incidental interaction with wildlife is inherently dangerous. It’s all about respect………..a characteristic that Sue possesses when it comes to nature and it’s creatures.
Now dealing with human crowds is another story. 🙂
My intention was not to cast doubt on Sue’s devotion to her pups–it’s obvious in her posts that they mean the world to her. I was agreeing with her that if it wasn’t safe for the dogs, I wouldn’t go, and I’m like Sue–if my dog(s) can’t go, I don’t have to go. There’s plenty of beautiful places I can go. If my dogs were not welcome someplace for any reason, I didn”t go without them–I didn’t feel comfortable leaving them in the motorhome/trailer. That’s just me.
As far as bears–to be honest and I’ve said it before, I would have been afraid to stay near the mother bear and her cubs. I’m not saying she was right or wrong or that my decision would be right or wrong. I just would have put some distance between them and me. That’s a call she made directly involved and I can only make seeing pictures and reading about the camp.
I’ve seen many instances in Yellowstone and elsewhere when humans have totally ignored the rules of safety, and therefore endangered themselves, the wild animals, and other people. Not cool.
Well that makes three of us………………regarding the pups!
I believe the mama bear and her cubs were across the river. Oh no…you are so right when it comes to a protective mama bear! I’m walking backwards…..sorry to have interupted you.
Sue never did indicate exactly how much distance was between Larry, her, the crew and the bears. She did say the were across the river but not how far away that was. I would say she had “some distance” between them but your comments seem to be saying it was not enough. I interpret your comment to say that IF she can SEE the bears then she is probably too close. Prudence is a good thing, unreasonable fear is not. I think Sue balances those two extremes fairly well.
I misunderstood, then, Ed. I thought the Larry’s dog had alerted she and Larry that the bears had passed through the campground. Whether the bears were too close is a personal opinion. Whether Sue wanted to stay is her personal choice. However, if I wasn’t prepared for bear country, had food in my trailer, and ate close to where I slept at night, I, personally, would not have stayed if bears were as close as I interpreted from Sue’s posts (which may be incorrect). I also have a Lab who would have barked and most likely antagonized the bear so that’s something I would take into consideration. I don’t consider that unreasonable fear. If one camps in the Yellowstone campgrounds, the rules are very clear regarding bear safety.
Those darn pesky people out there enjoying one of America’s Wonders….shame they ruined it for you
Now you know. Other than one excursion in the early 80’s, we’ve avoided Yellowstone like the plague. Rushmore was a similar experience for us. And that huge visitors’ center right in front of the Mount really detracts from the majesty of it, anyway.
Glacier is, IMHO, more beautiful and less crowded. Some of the most breathtaking national parks have surprisingly sparse attendance. Those are the ones I like. 🙂
Hi Mock… nice to see you here on Sue’s ever entertaining blog. My thought when I read this post was that I was soooo thankful not to be a teenager anymore. 🙂 And how the crowds would make me just as grumpy as Sue.
Tomorrow is another day….I’m sure you’ll find a good spot to enjoy God’s creation. Like other’s said, Old Faithful might be a good place to visit after school starts.
We used to do a great deal of traveling via airplanes instead of RVs. We learned pretty fast to travel during the off season. Not only were rates lower but fewer people frequented popular places. If you don’t like the crowds, that’s the time to go. It’s a no-brainer that all the tourist attractions are going to be pretty full during the summer when the kids are out of school.
Old Faithful is amazing, as are the many other hot springs there, but September/October is the time to go. The crowds aren’t as bad. If you feel like it, you might want to go on north to Mammoth and there you will see LOTS of elk. And some very cool hot springs. Then go on up into the Paradise Valley south of Livingston. The Crazy Mtns are beautiful. Or go into the LaMar Valley in Yellowstone to see wolves and much fewer people, but leave the trailer somewhere else.
But I know where you’re coming from. I’ve also just hit the pedal and kept on going when there are tons of people, no matter what I was missing. You can always go back another day.
You described it very well, I didn’t care for all the mobs of ignorant, stupid people and the traffic. The only time I will be going back is when I cut through the park to get to someplace on the other side. I have had enough of crowds of ignorant people doing stupid things.
I think my youngest son summed up Old Fathful when we were there a long time ago. After it went off he turned and looked at me and said “Is that all it does?”
I have been to Yellowstone twice the end of May and beginning of June. It is my favorite place on the planet. Love Lamar valley and watching all the animals in the spring. I have never had my dog with me as National Parks are not very animal friendly. I am hoping to visit there next fall but will have my dog so it will be diferent than the last 2 times.
When I lived in Wyoming, I was fortunate to be able to visit Yellowstone & the Tetons many times. But was only there once during the height of the summer season, as the crowds are always massive at that time. It’s really much nicer after Labor Day. Still busy, but not totally packed to the gills with people. It’s fun to see Old Faithful, so I hope you do get to see it.
Your picture of the Continental Divide was apparently taken right up the road from where I’m staying…Valley View in Island Park. I would have love meeting you and the crew and enjoyed taking you to lunch.
Cat Lady
We’ve been involved in thermal cleanup after a dog leaped into a hot spring and the owner tried to grab him and suffered very burned arms as the daughter cried, NO Daddy!. NEVER let a pet loose for a second in Yellowstone. Our cat wears a leash or doesn’t get out. If you go to the first gas station (marked as the first left turn) you will get a far better parking area for pets. Try to park in front of the inn…several shade trees. Pets are allowed on a very short part of the trail, most importantly you can see geyser hill and old faithful from under those trees. If you try to walk your dogs expect 10 million folk (some not nicely) tell you that pets are not allowed on the boardwalk. Remember that ALOT of the folk who work at OF have been involved one way or another with burned or gored people/pets and that is why the snarling. A frequent full-time worker expression is “Its sad that frequently the consequences of stupidity is death.” Read Death in Yellowstone if you don’t believe it. Evening is a GREAT time to visit. Try Baker’s Hole outside of West Yellowstone if you plan to exit the park that way.
Your pictures are wonderful. Thank you for taking the time to share them with us. The picture of the tree trunk was interesting and the one of the falls was just beautiful. I had to chuckle when I saw the one of Bridget and Spike in front of the Park sign. I appreciate your sense of humor.
Gorgeous pictures…………..once again!
How’s the camera working out?
Sometimes you can’t really appreciate a destination by seeing it in pictures or on tv. For example- the blue ice of Alaska’s glaciers or ground zero in NY.
Have a great day wherever the PTV decides to stop. And we won’t worry about you this time..thanks for the heads up.
Sue
I think our mindset is a lot alike , I dealt with a lot of folks on a daily bases for a lot of years, PR was part of my job. Now that I am retired I dont have to put up with the crowds and a lot of folks running around unless I choose to. Now that doesnt make them stupid or dumb just they dance to a different drummer than I do. I respect that until it actually gets into my space .
The other thing that took me awhile to realize, Going from sticks and bricks homes and a 8 to 5 work week to a laid back lifestyle with very few deadlines is a major process.,
I guess what I am trying to say is our lifestyle is different and each of us has our own values and likes and dislikes.
Isn’t It great that we can all be individuals .
Ron
The advantage to your lifestyle, Ron, is that if neighbors who don’t march to your drummer park near you, you have wheels and can move. I like peace and quiet, too, but for the weekend warrior, sometimes, it’s all about fun and friends. Easy to forget that they are disturbing people while they’re having a good time. Just a matter of moving which is what Sue did. That’s what’s great about the lifestyle.
A good point . Two reasons I avoid public campgrounds on weekends: To leave them to the families who can only get there on weekends and to avoid annoying crowds and noise. It’s a good time to hunker down in a private rv park and catch up on laundry, internet, baseball games housework.
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So sorry Sue. I knew but hoped it would be different for you. I took the kids there in 85. It was just as you described. Everyone has to see Yellowstone once. That once will last me a lifetime. So many other nicer places.
Love the pictures and reading your posts. I agree about the large crowds and the commercialization of things. I have had some good chuckles over the last to blog entries. BTW Gail Macauley Sourdiffe said to say “Hi” and is glad you are having such a good time
Sue,
Don’t forgo doing the entire figure 8 loop in Yellowstone. There’s lots to see. When I was there last I stayed in W. Yellowstone which at the mid section entrance to the NP. Then I took a day ride around the lower section of the figure 8 and on a second day I did the upper portion of the figure 8.
There is a Grizzly and Wolf Center in W. Yellowstone right near the Yellowstone park entrance.
You know lots of people don’t realize how sound travels out in the wild where it is truly quite. They are so used to speaking at a higher tone in order to be heard above all the background noise and chatter of the cities. Even whispers can often be heard at a distance.
On any average Summer afternoon about 4,000 people wait in front of Old Faithful, then dutifully click their shutters and run their video cameras when it Erupts. They then turn away for the real interesting stuff, the Junk Shops and Greasy Spoons. It’s Human nature. If you break out of that mold and walk just 0.1mi North (Down Basin towards Castle Geyser) you may be in view of 400 people. Walk another mile Down Basin and you might be able to see 40 people. Walk (or bicycle) 2.5mi to Lone Star Geyser and there might be 15 people waiting for an Eruption. Walk a half mile from the parking lot on any Backcountry trail and you might see (4) people. Yellowstone is what YOU make of it. Wonderland is there before you. This most spectacular of Geothermal areas has by far the largest number of Geysers and Hot Springs of anywhere on the Planet.There are dozens and dozens of Posts on our Blog about Yellowstone with PICs of some of the largest and most spectacular Geysers in the World in Eruption. I am adding “labels” (what Blogger calls Tags) for the Yellowstone Posts.
Lew
I agree, Lew. Our motto after time was “stay away from any place that has a concession stand. Still, we couldn’t see the true beauty that Yellowstone holds in its back country because we had the pups. We took turns seeing so each of us could see some of the not so close geysers. Many people don’t know that Old Faithful is not the largest. My son was fortunate enough to take a week long trip with outriggers into the back country. He really knows what Yellowstone has to offer. I bet most people don’t see 1% of the park.
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