Thursday, December 4
Coming to you from lovely Oak Flat along Route 60, northeast of Superior, Arizona . . . .
The view from our door at noon today.
The rain started as a whisper from above around two in the morning. By daybreak the whisper turns into a steady drumming. The rain continues all morning and into the afternoon.
Bridget and I are snug in the Best Little Trailer.
I go online, read my Paperwhite, drink hot drinks, snuggle with Bridget, get frustrated trying to solve Sudoku puzzles, and sit in bed looking through the drips of rain on the window, dreaming of possibilities.
As soon as the rain stops pelting the roof, Bridget and I scramble outside.
And just in time for Bridget, I might add. Wow! The wash is filled with water!
The wash was dry sand yesterday.
At dusk yesterday someone drove in and dropped off this trailer.
The water doesn’t worry me. Standing water doesn’t last long on Arizona ground.
I wouldn’t call these neighbors “clingers.”
A clinger is someone who crowds your camp when there are plenty of other campsites available. In this case, there aren’t many choices where to camp and they aren’t crowding us at all. I appreciate that they put space between their trailer and the BLT.
I intended to do some sight-seeing and photography while here waiting for the door repair. The cloudy days and rain have kept us at home. I like to take photos when we explore.
We did make a brief excursion into Superior the other day.
The drive between Oak Flat and Superior is very scenic, thus the title “Gila Pinal Scenic Byway.”
Apache Leap is Superior’s backdrop.
This is not my photo. It’s from superioraz.gov. Like I said, too dark a day for photos
One of the stories of Apache Leap can be read at The Legend of How Apache Leap Got Its Name, posted by silverbelt.com.
Highway 60 takes us past Apache Leap and through the Queen Creek Tunnel. The road whips around rockfaces, one way, then another, for an exhilarating, downhill careen into Superior.
We see only the backside of town.
Earlier I learned from Wikipedia that the following films, U Turn by Oliver Stone, Eight Legged Freaks, How the West Was Won, Blind Justice, The Prophecy, Skinwalkers, The Gauntlet with Clint Eastwood, and Young Billy Young, were set in Superior.
The main part of town — the business section along with residences – is off to the right. It’s a dark, cloudy day which kills my motivation to explore the town. I’d rather see it on a better day.
Bridget is antsy, so I pull over and park next to an old train car.
Notice the supports for the two saguaros.
Oh, this is a little park. There are walkways and picnic tables and various pieces of mining equipment.
“C’mon, Bridge. Let me put you in your suit and we’ll take a walk around.”
Apparently the town of Superior has plans to showcase the history of the area, particularly the artifacts from a closed mine.
This part of Arizona has several mines . . . copper, silver, gold, turquoise . . .
Okay, back to the rainy day at our Oak Flat camp, Thursday, December 4th
The rain stops. The clouds drift away. Blue sky appears.
The wash in our back yard is dry again!
The ground around our camp is soggy. Bridget sets her fanny down anyway.
My little dumpling
As for the Imperfect Tow Vehicle . . .
No word on another door from salvage to replace the one I crunched. I will see this door saga to its end!
rvsue
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“I’m sorry I called you a dumpling, Bridge, okay?”
NOTE: If you like to keep up with the discussions in comments, two topics have received excellent comments at the bottom under the previous post. The topics are: boosting cell phone reception for internet while boondocking and what RVers should know about Medicare Advantage Plans.
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I drove through Superior one day just driving around. Extremely scenic. I could easily believe movies had been filmed there.
It is a scenic area, loved by hikers and boulder-hoppers, history and movie buffs, and others.
CONGRATULATIONS, CALVIN R.! You’re first today!
Imagine that. Usually you have at least ten comments before I even see the email.
Hi Sue,
This looks like a neat area with a lot of history. I look forward to more pictures. Your door saga is something else. I am glad you have the time to be able to stick it out and wait.
Give Bridge a hug, she is such a sweet little dumpling!
Hi, Jolene,
Oh, the door saga… One absent-minded moment and look all it has led to! If a good door doesn’t turn up soon, I may move camp and come back when it’s time to go to the body shop.
The dumpling has received your hug. 🙂
Hello there. Might be first, but I read before I comment so maybe not.
Superior is a nice little town. Never new the origin of Apache tears. Probably a true story.
I never got to spend much time on the Apache reservation, maybe one day.
Enjoy the rain it doesn’t come that often. Just hope it isn’t major like CA is getting.
Like I said… I only saw Superior’s “backside.” I want to look around more when the weather is nice. Speaking of weather, not raining but very misty. The mountains are almost totally obscured.
What a lovely town. Sad to have such a tragic story attached to it. Heartbreaking.
I’m writing on my new kindle, that I bought on Amazon through your link. What a learning curve! I’m going to get all set up at the library for borrowing on it. Wonderful! Of course I still, and always will, love a real hardcover.
Glad you’re enjoying your new kindle, Applegirl. You may find after using the kindle for several months that your love of hardcovers has faded. They take up so much room! 🙂
But the library is always free and mine says ‘Hi Jan’ when I come in the door. Of course, it is 25 miles away.
I always appreciated a good rain, except when the hay was cut and trying to dry to bale.
It was raining over here in New Mexico too. And you’re right, standing water doesn’t last very long when the rain ends. Many of these small southwest towns have far more interesting stories than one would expect.
You’re right, Pleinguy, about the “interesting stories” around small towns in the southwest. This area has an exciting history involving conflicts between Apaches and whites, as well as the mining camps and all that. And then there’s the history going way back to the cliff dwellers…
🙂 I knew you would be getting rain, but I didn’t expect you to have a fleeting moment of waterfront property. I love those types of stories-the tears turned into obsidian pebbles.
Hopefully that door will appear soon.
Hi Monica,
It was a surprise to find a creek beside our camp. With all the rocks around here the rain doesn’t soak in and travels into the washes and low areas.
I’ve seen Apache tears sold in a gift shop somewhere and I didn’t know what the story was behind them.
When the boys and I lived in Joshua Tree, CA, we would go out after a rain and play barefoot in the puddles. It was never muddy, just wet sand that didn’t stick to our feet. It was gone so soon that it was a treat to catch it 🙂 . Apache Tears are beautiful stones, although their legacy story is such a sad one.
Puddles in the desert… Kind of like snow in Georgia. Kids have to get in it! And sometimes their mothers, too…
Hi Sue,
The rain on the roof of your Casita must be loud. I do like that sound but my Rosie is so freaked out by rain and thunder… she stays close to me… following me anywhere I go. She’ll have to get used to the new sounds in our little home on wheels. I now can totally imagine sitting inside the small trailer and keeping myself busy while it rained cats and dogs lol funny saying.
I enjoyed hearing about the town story and the black obsidian rocks called Apachi tears. What sadness the people had to bare. I was thinking as I do a lot, about weather or not I would venture off to sightsee all by myself. It’s still so hard to grasp the fact that I am totally alone and will be for who knows how long. Seems sad not to have anyone there to share what beauty or interesting things I’ll find along my way. I’ve decided to take my little home on wheels during Christmas to my best friends moms house where we’ll share the holiday together. I want to have my own bed and my pups with me comfy and not have to sleep on a sofa and keep the dogs under control. Why not use it. Then I’m taking it for 11 days back to the Sertoma boys ranch where I recently had my maiden voyage. There will be many friends camping those two weeks. This will really give me a chance to live in my camper for a few weeks. Trying to learn so much about setting it up etc. Not sure how to get more propane or how it all works… guess I will figure it all out soon enough.
As you can see I’m really filled with much excitement and also fear and confusion on what the heck I’m suppose to be doing. I miss my husband and always get teary eyed daily at the slightest thing. He would be proud of me for continuing on and having adventures and not just curling up in a ball and staying here for years.
Hope I’m not over sharing… It’s just so quiet here and I’m feeling that feeling you don’t share, loneliness.
So glad to have your blog and so many wonderful people here in your little world. hugs my friend, Deb
Hi, Deb,
You share as much as you want. It’s not like we’ll run out of paper. 🙂
I want you to know I’m very impressed with how you are handling this transition, I guess, for lack of a better word. .. This transition to life without your husband and to a life of travel in a small home on wheels. I do agree that your Mark — any loving husband — would approve of what you are doing and would be very proud.
I don’t know how one copes with loneliness, having had no experience with it. I hope my blog and the people who come here will be a distraction for you.
Don’t let the details of managing your rig overwhelm you. You don’t have to know it all to begin with. You’ll learn as you go, people will help you, and one day you’ll find yourself helping someone else learn things like taking care of propane tanks. 🙂
And remember you are welcome to ask questions here whenever you need.
As for the sound of rain on the roof… It’s not a harsh or tinny sound, more muffled, and very soothing. Your Rosie may surprise you and find it calming.
Hugs to you, Deb, from my “little world.” (I like that!)
I forgot to tell you I ordered a Teepee Tent for my dear friends so they can come for the New Years weekend and have their own space. So on Amazon from your site you should get the commission for that and the zero gravity chair and the pen.
🙂
A teepee tent for your friends…. 🙂
Thank you for your orders. I appreciate you thinking of me and Bridget!
Hi Deb…..
Welcome to the RV world!
Like Sue, I too have never been lonely. A suggestion; Allow yourself the opportunity that your aloneness is offering to get to know yourself. Explore the things that seem interesting…. You have made a Giant step by becoming an RV’R!
Let go of the thought that you are lonely! Think about all the
things you have thought about doing and start exploring what you feel may be intriguing!
Take your “puppies” for walks….set out at least one extra chair
by your rig. Perhaps that will attract people to stop by for a chat!
Definitely ask all kinds of questions about RV’ing and whatever
comes to mind when you are visiting with others!
Do what you want to do whenever you want to do anything!
Becoming a full time RV’r is the best thing I have ever done for
myself…. That was 30 years ago in the Spring of 1984! One of
the things I found out about myself is that I can do anything I
choose to do! Of course I am much older so there are more
limits than there were thirty years ago!
One great thing about myself that I suspect Sue shares with me..
“Shy” is something I have NEVER experienced….. Most likely
Sue shares that ? Right Sue?
Your life is about YOU now Deb….. Find out who you are and become all you can be! Have fun! Enjoy all you are and all you
want to do!
Many good wishes and hugs coming your way….from Elizabeth
aka E2/etw0 …..
To answer your question, E2… I was shy when I was young. That was before I knew myself. 🙂
thank you Elizabeth I have read you post a couple times and you make such good points. So you have been a fulltimer for 30 years? Wow that is really fascinating. I want to go out there and be brave and strong. I’ve always been one to get totally immerced in anything I get into. So this is my new interest.. learning to be a good RVer and eventually self reliant. I am a people person and probably will have many chats with people everywhere. It is so weird not to have anyone to think about and share with. Now I just do what ever I feel like. wow what a change.
Deb,generally I’m cautious not to compare anyone having lost a spouse to myself,because it’s unique for each person.That is the only reason I seldom reply to your comments here.You mentioned a couple of things that perhaps will be easier ,for the moment at least,to go through if I do offer a thought on them this evening.All ventures,sightseeing included,are essentially gone through alone- though having someone beside us makes it seem as though they aren’t.We are never having an identical reaction to an experience even when others are simultaneously reacting to the same occurrence.
We share what beauty or interesting things we find along the way,if we choose to.That may be done on the spot with a companion or later with family,friends or strangers-in person,on a blog,telephone,whatever way we prefer to reach out to or be reached by.Sharing isn’t gone,he is,and I’m so sorry that you hurt as a result of that.
Loneliness,to me,is missing having anyone around.Being lonesome,to me,is missing a particular someone- that acutely painful state changes and diminishes.What you felt when you wrote your comment isn’t what life will feel like even a few months from now.This isn’t life-it’s only the edge of life,and no indication of the ease,peace,joy and love ahead.
You’re not over sharing -you are doing exactly what’s right and beautiful…
Hi, Weather,
Your comment a while back about your close friend and son being excited and supportive of your plans made my heart smile! Oh, so happy that you can share your dreams and not receive anxiety or concern from them. Hope you and your troupe have a warm, cozy evening! Hugs from me and Gracie pup. 🙂
Hi Denise hugs felt and being returned.Hearing that your heart smiled about my blessings warmed my own 🙂 Our blankets, home,clothes,feather and fur coats are keeping us cozy-Hope you get enough sun to help you feel the same way!
🙂
Thank you Weather for talking to me. I agree with you that there is always going to be ways to share what I am seeing on my journey. I know time changes things and it will get easier. Just not having that special person that makes you feel content just laying beside him or just dangling our feet in a stream or sipping our coffee with our toes touching. Those are the things that I miss so much. Life is full of change and this is one big one for me. Like you said in so many words who knows what beautiful times filled of joy lie ahead of me. 🙂 My heart is broken but not my spirit for life.
Hope this makes sense to you… since I find my mind wandering with so many thoughts
I appreciate your words.
All of what you wrote in your reply makes perfect sense to me Deb,your mind wandered through hope,feelings and truth well described,familiar and profound.This IS a big change! Life’s spirit is strong enough to heal and make far more beautiful loving hearts and dreams.I’m very pleased that you share yours here and hope you continue to-you enrich many every time that you do 🙂
Hugs to you Deb! Hopefully, tomorrow will be a better day.
thank you Sally
Hi, Deb,
I am glad that you had a good maiden voyage! You are blessed to have friends nearby to help you learn the ropes. You are doing GREAT! Just remember that you have a bunch of us cheering you on! Sending you a hug! 🙂
I feel the love and the hug! thanks 🙂
Your husband isn’t the only one who’s proud of you Deb. I think your doing great!
Why thank you so much Rick… your comment moved me.
Holiday times can be hard under the best of circumstances…but it sounds like you are planning the best places to be, that one could. I am so happy for you that you have such nice friends…and obviously you are a good friend yourself!! I hope this time will be most helpful and special to you…no doubt your friends will do all they can to include you and help you not to feel quite so lonesome maybe. However, I am sure, after all the years with your husband, you will feel some lonesome times. You are indeed a brave woman and I am glad to read what you post here!!
Elizabeth your right the holidays are difficult for me since this is the first year without him. I am doing things different than any other year and yes the friends I have are so dear to me. Somehow I get through day by day. Glad you like my posts.
When my husband died it took me over a year to realize something…it wasn’t so much having him with me during my experiences…it was more being able to remember things with him. When I realized that I mad more of an effort to share my experiences with others, in other ways. Phone calls. Photos. But in the end, enjoying an experience is as easy as soaking it up. Instead of telling your husband…tell yourself. ‘Deb…look at that view!’ Just soak it up, and share it here or facebook or in photos. You’ll be fine.
Ginger you are so right and I know time helps. Sorry for your loss. You put it right and I do find myself reaching out to others to tell them what I am thinking or doing. I am a communicator and thank goodness for being able to instantly share with others online. I used Facebook and what a great way to keep in touch with friends.
Making new memories now and moving ahead slowly.
Hi Deb!
What a joy it is to have your own little rolling spot of peace and quiet during the hub-bub of the holidays. I used one of my little vintage rolling homes when my daughter was pregnant and I was helping her. Parked in her driveway, I had my own space and yet was close by.
Something tells me there is an angel up there watching you with a ‘You Go Get ‘Em Girl’ prideful smile. You can do this. 🙂
Hugs,
Barb
Good for you and welcome to the road of adventure, Debs Journey, ,,,,,,,,,,,Rusty n’ Timber
“rained cats and dogs …”
don’t step in a poodle! (as my Dad used to say)!
Team Dumpling! Yay Bridget!
Linda, you nut. LOL!
A bunch of us on motorcycles enjoy screaming thru the queen creek tunnel…. and around all those cliffs you describe…. And yes it is more fun going down hill!
Oh, wow, Rod… I can’t imagine what a thrill that must be! The big trucks pushing you in the behind adds to the excitement.
Hi Sue, my wife and enjoy your blog. We are thinking of starting boondocking and need some info on internet service. I looked at your mifi diagram, and am wondering if you know anything about Consumer Cellular? (our provider) Any help is appreciated. Jim and Vickie.
Hi, again, Jim and Vickie,
No, I don’t know anything about that company. BTW, there is a reply to your comment under the previous post.
I use Consumer Cellular and have had no problems. I am currently on the edge of nowhere and am getting fine reception. However CC is only phone with data. If you need access to the internet for a computer then you need an air card and Verizon is the best for this, their Jetpacks work well. They have the largest coverage by far over everyone else.
our friends use Consumer Cellular and love it. 🙂
Hi, Sue,
I look forward to you and Bridget showing us more of Superior if the weather permits. The story of Apache Leap…oh, so sad. I can see how the area would be ideal for movie making; beautiful, rugged surroundings.
Glad you and Miss Bridget got a break from the rain. Hugs to you both! Have a good evening! 🙂
Hi, Denise,
I don’t know if you clicked on that link that gives the details of the day they leaped… Very interesting. I was touched by the Apache lady’s comments further down the article.
I would like to see more of this area, go to the arboretum, but this camp is blah. You know how spoiled I am about where we camp. I’m used to living in a postcard scene! Already I’m itching to find another place, but I don’t want to stray too far from the body shop in Globe.
You have a good evening, too!
Yes, I did. Thank you for the link. So glad that there are elders left to tell their “true” story and pass it on to the younger generations.
A blah camp + rain = yuck! Yep, you are kind of stuck….hanging there (pun intended) for magical door #3! I hope you are able to explore the arboretum…so many folks have mentioned it is a must-see. I have a feeling that your next camp will be spectacular! 🙂
Thanks for sharing the Apache story. Man’s inhumanity to man. So sad. And that it is still going on yet today in many parts of the world!! So many innocent people, just like us who want to live in peace and harmony. Being part Cherokee…such stories leave me with mixed feelings. I did not find out I was Cherokee until about 12 years ago. But I was always one to read everything I could find about any American Indians. Other unknown bloodlines, were also of interest to me. Strange how that happens. Being drawn to learn of what no one has ever told you!!
Hi, Elizabeth,
“Being drawn to learn”… The longer I live the more I realize that we know very little about the workings of the world in which we live.
Given the ability to see the physical, many of us (and all of us to a certain extent) limit our recognition to the existence of those things that can be seen with the eye, microscope, telescope, through mathematical probability formulas, etc.
To say you were being contacted by your ancestors to allow you to acknowledge your heritage would seem like quackery to many. I keep an open mind about such things.
In other words, yes, there is a reason you were “drawn to learn of what no one has ever told you!”
Interesting comment, Elizabeth.
I feel GOD leads me to things, even when not looking nor asking…especially on my internet wanderings. But when I look at our faith path now, and all that happened along the way….I see not just coincidence. Because it is not one we sought for, or expected nor planned for, frankly. Learning truth takes time, sometimes years of it, and finally we realized WHO we really are and WHERE we belonged. I have no idea if those gone before have anything to say about what is going on in our lives. But learning little things, here and there, has certainly enriched my/our lives. You know, I have always felt things happened for a reason, though some events I never expect to understand in this life. But it gives me peace and contentment to look at life this way.
I am Cherokee as well. My great grandmother was full blooded. I don’t know a lot about her or the tribe. I wish I did.
I do not know much besides names and a couple stories about my great grandmother who was not full blooded. We have photos of her mom, and she APPEARS full blooded, but no one knows for sure. We went once up to Cherokee, NC, to the village there. The museum too. That was time very well spent. It is in a gorgeous setting…the ONLY clear water I saw while we lived that decade in NC. But the village is very informative and interesting, even to children. I highly recommend going to see it if you can sometime!! You will come away standing prouder to be Cherokee.
Rained heavily here all morning. Nice and cool here. I will be studying all weekend…finals next week.
Sure hope that door comes in, but glad you stopped in Superior. Now I have to see it!
Hi, Ginger,
You’re in Tucson and we’re not far, going northeast. You had heavy rain this morning; our rain stopped yesterday afternoon and none since. Judging from the looks of the sky, I think we’ve had our full share already.
Oh, “studying all weekend”… You have more focus than I have!
Message to Chloe: Do not bother your Mom this weekend. Let her concentrate, okay?
Wishing you the best with your studying and finals, Ginger!! Tis not easy remembering in this part of life!! I applaud you for this effort!!
Good luck with your studying, DesertGinger! 🙂
Thanks for sharing your journey as always and also for the “heads up” about the comments under the previous post…good to know.
Work, work, work for those of us enduring the retail world. Hopefully, my last holiday as a retail manager…God willing! After many months of working on our house, it should go on the market after the first of the year.
Your stories continue to relax me after long days at work, and of course the blogorinos, too. I’m not commenting as often, but I wanted you to know that I still read every word! Hope you and Bridget have had another cozy and restful night. Safe travels.
Hi, Teresa,
I understand that you would not have the time nor the energy to comment frequently after being a retail manager all day. I know a retail manager and they/you work awfully hard, especially at this time of year with more customers, longer hours, special sales, etc.
I’m glad my posts and blogorino comments help you relax.
Good to hear you’ve made progress on your house. January is a good time to put it on the market. I wish you lots of luck … both with finding a buyer and getting the value from the house.
Worked several years in retail…a LOT of hard work this time of year!! Wishing you the best, Teresa and that your house will sell well!!
Sounds like a real interesting area. I had heard that story about the Apache Tears but forgot where it was in reference to. Looks like you got a lot of rain. We are/were in a ‘rain shadow’ here I’m told, it drizzled all day yesterday but today mostly blue sky. Not much fell here but over the hills to the west, YIKES it sounded terrible in some spots.
Hi, Wayne,
From your comment I assume you are east of the Sierra Nevada. I admit I haven’t read the news lately and only have a vague idea where the heavy rain fell…
Our rain was steady… a very efficient dowsing that did not linger.
Thought you and your readers might be interested to know what the U.S. House of Representatives is facilitating for the Superior, AZ, area and for the Tonto Nat. Forest. “US House vote eases way for Superior mine.” Google “Tonto National Forest land swap” for some interesting reading about what Rio Tinto, international mining company, plans for the area. Incidentally, as a young boy, I enjoyed collecting Apache Tears in the area. Thanks for the memories your post evoked.
Hi, Norm,
I read about another mine proposed for this area. I didn’t include the controversy in this post because I had a lot of info already …
Here is a link for readers who would like to know more:
“Massive mine proposed for Oak Flat — Sacred tribal land”
Thanks for sharing this, Norm.
So the UK wants to do this. They, BP (British Petroleum ) already control most of the oil in this country.
Layers of robin’s egg blue sky between soft cloud lines waver like circling ribbons and lace above.A slight breeze moves through- barely moving the water,leaves and pine boughs . Geese,magnificent in size and beauty, glide so close to shore that every feather on them can be clearly seen- even in sunrise’s quiet light.Wild foliage that remains thick with pods and feathery seeds barely seems to notice how cold it is,I do.
When we are privileged to appreciate any part of creation for it’s natural beauty-for it’s own sake,not for profit or possession of it or it’s historic attributes-I believe we are receiving a rare opportunity,and were chosen to be given that.Sue,do you think that maybe that is part of why the door saga continues?Oak Flat may sink into oblivion if mined,this property will surely be “developed” by it’s next occupants.Perhaps we’re meant to help others see precious things while they still can…
This post was full of fascinating details of such large stories…you always appreciate,capture and share details all others miss.Thanks,hope before you leave there enough sun peaks through to let you use your camera more.Seeing Bridget sitting on the rarely wet Arizona ground is treasure enough to have me smiling now!
Good morning, weather,
As always your talent with words reminds us to observe our natural surroundings and to appreciate the beauty given to us to enjoy.
Whenever the progression of what I want to do is stalled, I have to wonder why. And now that I have this blog, there are many more reasons for us being delayed in our travels. Who can measure what effect a simple post in a little blog may contribute to the larger plan? As you mentioned, maybe a reason is “to help others see precious things while they still can…”
I wanted very much to post photos of what can be seen driving the scenic byway from our camp to Superior. Magnificent! It wasn’t only the lack of light that prevented me from using my camera. There’s no place to pull over and park in order to take photos. Maybe what I’ve shown is enough . . . 🙂
Ah, geese… what some think merely a pest that leaves its droppings in inconvenient places… others, such as you and I, see a a precious creation, evidence of Artistry beyond our reach to duplicate, Glory in the form of muscle, bone, blood, feathers, and flight.
Time for a second cup of java!
Thoroughly beautiful reply…!
Thank You for posting your monthly expenses. This is very helpful when trying to plan for the future and live on a fixed income.
And as always, I appreciate you and your readers teaching through the comments section.
Thanks
You are very welcome, Kathy! I appreciate the feedback.
Oh yeah, I learn a lot from the comments, as well as being entertained. Nice hearing from you . . . Feel welcome to insert your own thoughts on topics here that interest you.
Hi!
I just looked again at your money tab. I know its a pain for you, but it is fantastic to see how you keep your expenses down. Actually, thats how I found your blog! I was looking on the Airstream forum for info on money matters and someone recommended it! I have a nosy question, though. How come you pay so much in taxes on your Amazon income?? It doesn’t seem like you gross enough with your pension and social security to have to pay ANY taxes, or at least, not that much.
Just curious…
Hi, Terri,
I’m no tax expert, but I’ll try to answer your question. First of all, I did not claim any business deductions on my Amazon income. In other words, the gross income was pure profit. Secondly, the additional income put me over the threshold of non-taxable income.
I used three different tax programs to figure my taxes and all three came up with the same result. Maybe someone here can explain the why of it better than I did in the first paragraph.
I enjoyed reading your reaction to my money reports. Thanks for the feedback. You wrote “it is fantastic to see how you keep your expenses down.” The funny thing is… I don’t keep my expenses down (purposeful intent)… I live how I want to live and it doesn’t cost much! That’s the beauty of this life. 🙂
I’m not sure why you don’t claim any business expenses. I’m sure your internet fees, computer, etc are all deductible expenses. And I assume you are claiming either state tax or sales tax?
DesertGinger,
A self employed Amazon Associate would be tripping multiple red flags at the IRS if they were to take ‘business deductions’ against the income received.
Sue would have to pay the 15.3% on the gross income so the savings would be only in Income Tax. I think Sue made the correct decision not to take any ‘business deductions’ and pay the ‘penalty’ for doing so but avoid an IRS audit while living as a Full Timer.
Your milage may vary – so to speak.
Not sure why you say she would be tripping multiple red flags, since they are legitimate expenses. She can depreciate her computer and other equipment, and include her monthly Internet costs. When she files her schedule C it is expected she will have business expenses. Or, for her new computer she could do a section 179…but why pay taxes she doesn’t need to? I wasn’t even thinking of mileage.
The problem with those deductions is… I use my personal computer for my Amazon business and my monthly Internet costs include my personal internet use. Depreciation on my computer? It’s not worth much to begin with. Ha! The reduction in my taxes would be minimal but the risk would be great.
I read recently on a Discussion Forum for Amazon Affiliates of a person who did claim these questionable expenses and ended up in a heap of trouble.
Having been down the IRS audit road, I think she means she would be “tripping multiple flags” in terms of attracting an audit due to being self-employed not that they are questioning her expenses. That comes later, if audited!! I was one of 1st home-based businesses (legit) and asked IRS why I got audited. They said, “We just love to audit home-based businesses, esp. those who become Shaklee distributors and write off their home ofc bec. it has a box of soap in it.” I learned that audits are about punishment, they are about getting more $$$ out of you one way or another.
I mean NOT about punishment!
My thinking exactly, Ed. The IRS could make my life miserable and then where would I be? Everyone would tire of reading my posts about fighting the IRS and I wouldn’t make anything off of Amazon. 🙂
The IRS would not hassle you about legitimate business expenses on your schedule C. Since your business is an Internet blog, obviously you have expenses related to having access to the Internet, updating and maintaining your blog, etc. Also the IRS is not going to care about someone at your income level. I have only worked 3 years for HRBlock, but have never seen a schedule C with no expenses. You really don’t need to not list your expenses….that’s why they have the place to list them on the schedule C.
So I do this and save what? $100 maybe? Not worth the anxiety. I would be the 1 in a million low-income tax-payers the IRS would jump on.
… and Bridget would say, “Just get over it and push my carriage.”
Ginger… Since I’m a legal resident of SD I don’t have to pay state taxes.
Awesome.
Love SD!
NY would tax the air you breath…if they could!
Terri From Texas.
Sue is self employed as an Amazon Associate and therefore must pay:
1) The employee’s portion of the Social Security tax, which is 6.2% of the first $113,700 of net income.
2) The employer’s portion of the Social Security tax, which is 6.2% of the first $113,700 of net income.
3) The employee’s portion of the Medicare tax, which is 1.45% of all net income (no cap or limit on net income).
4) The employer’s portion of the Medicare tax, which is 1.45% of all net income (no cap or limit on net income).
Then on top of that the net income from her self employment (she took no deductions, so all of it) is added to any other taxable income she may have and she then pays Income Tax on that total. Sue has labeled it all a Income Tax which is technically not correct but it is still a tax that she had to pay to the Federal Government. She may have also, for simplicity, allocated the total total taxes paid all to the Amazon income.
Once again I thank you, Ed.
Yes, I did allocate all the taxes to Amazon income for the sake of simplicity.
BTW, Ed. . . I’m putting together a Frequently Asked Questions page and I hope you don’t mind me quoting your comment in answering the question about the taxes I pay.
You certainly may. However, you might add a postscript that says that the rates were for 2013, they can change from year to year at the whim of our lawmakers.
Ok. Good thought. Thanks.
One more comment…since you owed more than $1000 on taxes on Amazon income, are you subject to a penalty? Taxes must be paid as you go. If you anticipate similar taxes next year, you may want to consider making estimated tax payments 4 times a year.
I did not consider that. Thanks for the heads up, Ginger! I appreciate you taking those H&R Block courses for my benefit. 🙂
I think you are wise to not try to claim, Sue. Friends of ours who got audited said it was a nightmare. Now they hired some professional to help them with it and both times, they got money BACK because I think if you are audited, you are permitted to go back 5 years; our friends were allowed to do that at least, but that was some years ago. SO, we do not claim our charity giving. Just in case. Kind of like insurance to us!! Wish I could go after the USNavy for the money they cheated hubby out of just as we married (he had $360 taken out the few months prior to our marriage, for a honeymoon, etc and it never arrived!!) Wonder what that would be worth NOW, with interest and all over all these 42+ years?? Well, needless to say, twas a short honeymoon…but at least in a few days we were on our way to Hawaii where he was stationed. Always wondered where that money went as it left his paycheck!!
$360.00 @ 4% apr for 42 years = $1869.40.
Or in Pentagon spending the cost of keeping an F16 in the air for 288 seconds.
Not sayin’ you don’t deserve your money but it’s easy to see where it might have gone.
Sorry redid my math. At a cost of $24000.00 per hour to fly a figher plane that actually comes out to 9 seconds.
Well, it surely would have made some things a bit easier, that is for sure!! 🙂
Good morning Sue! I am curious about what medical insurance you have that is good where ever you go? My Sis goes to Havasu every winter and she has a very bad cold right now. And their insurance doesn’t work there. Lov you blog! Dee
Hi, Dee,
The medical insurance I have is grouped with the state employees of Georgia so I don’t think it would help your sister any to know… It’s through Blue Cross Blue Shield.
Original medicare is good wherever, and then you need a medigap policy to go with medicare. However, if you go with a medicare advantage plan, those are only good in your home state. I have original Medicare with blue cross/blue shield medigap and am covered anywhere in the country. The bcbs costs $140/month and I have not paid any bills of any kind on my medical expenses since I got it. And I have LOTS of medical expenses.
so, (thinking about 4 years ahead for me, but husband gets Medicare in a year) there’s Medigap and Medicare Advantage plans? They are two different things?
Your plan sounds the best as we travel 6 months out of the year out of our home state (Washington) We have Blue Cross Blue Shield right now, so It would be hopefully easier just to segue into that 😀 lol (if possible) I wonder if it costs different things in different states (I dread Medicare as we have very good insurance right now)
I was without ins for 10 yrs due to owning my own business so Medicare was a blessing for me. I also have BCBS and pay $125 a month. Pricing is different in each state. The best thing I found with Medigap policies is they are uniform in what they pay so you pick the plan you want then you can compare all the companies in your state for price. ( if you pick plan F the benefits are the same for all companies but the price is different.) I’ve always had trouble comparing ins because the benefits were different from co. to co.
I’m glad to hear the BCBS will be good for when I’m traveling also.
Yes, medicare advantage plans are different than medigap. They sometimes offer additional benefits, like vision or dental. But as far as I know they are only good in home state and when out of state you have emergency coverage only. I have medigap plan F, which is the most complete medical coverage. It appears to cover everything…I’ve pAid no costs since I’ve had it except the plan premium.
Hi Sue,
We got a short break from the rain this morning ( very short) I took Asia out to her yard for her breakfast as she refuses to eat breakfast inside. ( she likes to tease her 2 friends Mr. And Mrs. Squirrel ) so, since it wasn’t raining. Nor sis it look like rain. I took her out in Her fenced in yard. I jumped in the shower to get ready to take dad to his Dr. Appt. I didn’t have any thoughts about rain. Guess what… It poured…. So when I got dressed and went out to get her she was soaked. And mad!! She is now giving me the cold shoulder. Poor thing. I felt soooo bad And if course she has laid it on thick too. Lol. It is now nite nite time and she always gets a nite nite treat so she’s made up with me ( for now)
I am still enjoying your blog so much and want to thank you again for all the hours of taking me away from all the everyday struggles. It is so nice to lay back and relax and travel to paradise with you and bridge.
I have been shopping up a storm on amazon. I hope that it helps. I have ordered so much that I don’t even know what I have ordered. Fa la la la la! 😉
Peace, joy and good health to you and all.
Mert and a mad baby girl Asia Mae. 😉
Hi, Mert,
Oh my, you left Asia Mae out in the rain? I hate to think what Bridget would do if I did that to her!
Asia Mae better be careful about those squirrels. Bridget’s leg injury was the result of sprinting after a chipmunk.
Glad you’re still enjoying my blog. Thank you for ordering lots of stuff from Amazon through my blog. You have me singing fa la la la la!
😉 @ fa la la la la …. So was I.
I can’t believe I left her out either. She’s still pouting. She got up in bed. Ate her nite nite then got down in HER bed.
Big time punishment for momma 🙁
have to tell you this lol yesterday in Quartzsite we were at one of the vendors and he had a dog that looks just like Bridget! I looked down at the dog, and immediately looked around the room to see if you were there lol Then, I remembered where you were..NOT Quartzsite 😀
What a shock, Barb! Bridget strikes out on her own, into the world of commerce! 🙂
Perhaps she has been hired as a Barker to lure in the crowds.
With her grumpy face? She’d make a better bouncer.
Isn’t that where the naked vendor does his thing…Quartzite?
Yep. When I met him it was chilly so he had his jacket on and not much else. He’s called The Naked Bookseller…
Paul Winer 🙂 Just saw the Quartzsite Christmas Light Parade and he was the narrator. Fun. A LOT of people were in this 🙂
Was going to go to his concert on Tuesday (he’ll be 72 and is doing a concert) but we’ll be packing…we’re taking a flight home for Christmas and will be back in 2 weeks 🙂
I am finding the comments about being led to information that has proven to be important very interesting. In high school I had to write a paper for my American History class. I was drawn to the Cherokee Indians and the Trail of Tears. I did m y research in the NYC libraries and wrote away to Lawrence, KS where there is an Indian University.
Not only do I now live in Kansas, I also have married a man who has some Cherokee ancestry thru woman who was raised among Quakers. Two of my grandchildren are 1/8 Cherokee. I was drawn to the story and now I know it had implications for my family. Who knew?
Hi, Pat,
Interesting… Something that’s often called coincidence but probably isn’t, IMHO.
You may have heard of the idea that our souls are not bound by our linear concept of time, i.e. souls exist in past, present, and future, all at once. Only we in our earthly form are bound to past, present, and future time which limits our knowledge to what we have experienced and learned so far. Your soul (which maybe isn’t the most appropriate term) “knew” to whom you eventually would be married.
And if that isn’t a confusing mess of a paragraph, my name isn’t RVSue! 🙂
I totally agree! Whoa, how do you find time for deep thought while spending so much energy on us blogorinos? Don’t we wear you out?! I’m doing some Buddhist studies, and I think every good spiritual path should be lined with Paperwhites and audiobooks from Amazon! Om & Season’s Greetings to you and Miss B.
Gayle, I have to give you credit… You managed to insert a promotion for my Amazon sales in a spiritual discussion. Way to go!
No, you blogorinos don’t wear me out. Well, not usually. 🙂
Very interesting Pat…thanks for sharing that!!
I tried Buddhist, I- Ch’ing and Trans-Mental and all of it left me feeling Empty, Then I found Jesus or He found me, and now that I follow Christ Jesus, I’m not thirsty, for His water of Life, I have in my Heart and the empty void is full. That is why I say; May the lord Jesus bless you all and give you Wisdom and good Health. Having Wisdom is good for your heart!
P.S. I’m just visiting this earth, Read the Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.,( BIBLE). There is a Knock at the Door of your Heart, It’s up to you, to open it up and be found or don’t and be lost. As you may know, the road to destruction is very WIDE.
I am with you there Rusty. Made a world of difference for me.
P. S. I also have Cherokee blood in me from my Mom’s side.
Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. Oh, I LOVE THAT! Will share it!
Rusty, that made me smile 🙂
so well said.
God bless you 🙂
God said most, I just typed it.
amen
I’m late to the party!
First things first………..dumpling! All in love of course!
Interesting story in regards to Apache Leap.
Yikes…..how does one know they aren’t in an area that will get washed away? How does one tell where a wash is? To a VERY untrained eye (mwah) when you’ve made mention of a wash….it looks like just a gradual dip in the landscape!
Hi, Cinandjules,
How does one recognize a wash is a wash? Hmm… It’s harder to explain that it is to recognize one.
A wash interrupts the natural contours of the ground. You have no trouble recognizing a rut. Well, a wash is a big rut made by erosion brought about by flowing water. It has cutbanks on both sides and a sandy and/or rocky bottom.
As a general rule I try to camp on ground higher than the surrounding area. In other words I avoid camping in a depression. I’ve broken this rule more than once. Seeing a wash nearby tells me that any excess water has a place to go, like having a ditch next to a road.
And that, students, is our lesson on washes today!
Interesting threads on here lately…As long as we’re musing along lines of “travel”…There are ten (known/spoken of by humanity) dimensions(one of which is time) that can be compressed,expanded,experienced forwards,backwards or stationary.”studying alternate world views/pathways” holds the possibility of becoming stuck within some of those.While that would not necessarily be an eternal position,woefully it would feel as though it were.There’s a reason the Way calls some lost…picture a single feather trapped among thorns,held there by relentless wind coming from a darkened direction.
Once told to disperse rather than build cities,humanity at times hears(yet seldom recognizes or heeds) the call from within to return to or not relinquish the nomadic bent given us that makes what Story meant life and adventure to be.Unaware of that some are surprised by being led to notice their roots,whether of bloodlines or of how and why they exist at all.
Got an email earlier from a friend it took years for me to convince that the intent all along was to have fun,passion,love.She spoke of relishing the joy untethering herself a bit more is.Wonderful sunrise here again,Sue,rain clouds are evaporating as I type this.Apparently the ones from your area paid us a brief visit,too.Hope whatever visits you today-news,wildlife,thoughts,feelings are beautiful 🙂
No need for me to add anything to your message, nor to those above. . . other than . . . Good morning, weather and y’all! 🙂
🙂
Sorry, weather, to give such a short reply. There are times when I feel it’s better to let a person’s comment stand on its own.
I finished the money report for August this morning! Also, readers who like to catch all the comments may want to look under the previous post… more responses have come in.
Honestly,your reply made me smile,that’s why one was what I answered with.Finding your decisions/policies to be wise, I,too,prefer not to explain/discuss it here more.Thanks again for doing the tedious work posting your money reports takes.They are very helpful!
Sue,
I “think” I know the answer to this but since I am about to make my annual plunge into the culture of consumerism I wanted to double check how Amazon works.
Over the past 12 months I have placed lots of items on my Amazon wish list as gift ideas for family, friends and of course myself. Some, perhaps most, of these items were placed on my list during visits where I did not enter Amazon through your blog. So my question is, if I click through your link, then go to my wish list, then place the items in my cart you will get full credit correct? Just want to be sure.
Yes, I will, Rick, and a big thank you for wanting me to receive credit for your shopping!
If you’d like… Let me know the date you order and one item in your order and I’ll look for it.
Thanks so much for getting back to me so quick.
However I think my new definition of irony is a woman who is saving for her “2nd retirement” by banking the earnings from people making purchases while simultaneously teaching them the wisdom of “living on less and enjoying life more.”
YOU ROCK!
Round and round she goes . . . 🙂
Just placed an order for a Samsung tablet and a Lego set and some other items for gifts. Hopefully they show up for you, as I used your link at top of page. Merry Christmas a little early Sue! Amazon loves my family at this time of year!
Hi, Velda… Ooh, you do buy nice gifts! Lego sets are popular this year. I’ve seen several in my order reports. Lego and Ninja this and Ninja that. Your order will show up in my reports in a day or so. Thanks so much! That tablet will generate a nice commission for this greedy blogger.